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Iowa Hawkeyes vs Nebraska Cornhuskers: Who Has the Best Football Program in the Neighborhood?
Vote Below on Who–Currently–Has the Best College Football Program: Hawks or Huskers?
By Will Cummings myHitNews.com
Historically, the University of Nebraska, with its five national championships, has certainly been the best college football program in the neighborhood that encompasses its boarding states of: South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, and Iowa. However, if one comes from the school of “what have you done for me lately”and he or she strictly examines the performances of the Iowa Hawkeyes and the Nebraska Cornhuskers football programs, since the start of the 21st century (nine seasons), the answer may not be so certain:
Performance Comparison 2000-2008
Iowa Hawkeyes
vs Nebraska Cornhuskers
Comparison Category
Iowa
Nebraska
Win-Loss
69-43
74-40
Conference Championships
2
0
Bowl Appearances Win-loss
4 wins 3 loss
4 wins 3 loss
National Titles
0
0
AP Final Top 25 Appearances
4 (average rank 11)
4 (average rank 14.75)
Since the 2000 football season, Nebraska edges Iowa in total victories 74- 69, but the Hawks take the edge in conference titles with 2 Big Ten co-championships to 0 Big XII titles for Nebraska. More to the point, during the period in question, Iowa has a Final AP Top 25 Poll ranking average of 11 vs. 14.75 for Nebraska. So who currently has the best football program between the two?
Sure, the two teams play in different conferences, and its almost unquestionable that the Big XII is the more competitive conference between the two; yet over the decade, the final AP Poll favors a higher ranking for the Iowa Hawkeyes. Go figure.
Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz is in his eleventh season of guiding the Hawks, and his 2009 team, currently, boasts a 5-0 record and sits at No. 12 in this week’s AP Poll. Nebraska’s record is 3-1 and they appear at the No. 21 spot in the AP Poll. Bo Pelini–in just his second season at the helm–already seems to have the Huskers poised for a legitimate shot at a Big XII Conference Championship. The Huskers, nationally televised game against Missouri, onThursday, should give us a good idea of just how far they have come in their quest to again reign supreme atop the Big XII.
At the moment, both Ferentz and Pelini have done outstanding jobs in leading their respective programs to be considered among the best in the country. But which one will have the juice to finally climb to the top of the mountain and at least play for a national title within the next three years?
Hawkeyes!!! Cornsuckers are lucky they play in the big 12 north or else they wouldn’t be over .500 and IOWA wins their big games unlike the Cornsuckers
First of all, it’s odd to title an article “Who Has the Best Football Program in the Neighborhood?” then to immediately follow it with some disclaimer in the opening about just looking at the last 9 seasons. So which is it? Best team in 21st century or Best Football Program in the area? It’s not even debatable to compare Iowa’s football program to the Nebraska Cornhuskers. That’s like comparing apples (NE) to raisins (Iowa).
Let’s take a look at a few numbers: National titles: NE-5 IA-1, Conference titles: NE-46 IA-11, Heisman winners: NE-3 IA-1, Bowl Appearances: NE-50 IA-23. I could go on with these kind of number all day, but those are the big ones. Oh yeah, and Iowa’s lifetime record is barely over .500. Nebraska was over 70% last I checked. Iowa fans probably feel pretty good about their team this century. Husker fans are more disappointed than ever with the performance. However, the Huskers STILL have a better record than Iowa in the 21st century…imagine that. That should tell you a little bit about the expectations at a BIG BOY program. The last two times these programs met: 1999- NE-42 IA-7 (In Iowa) 2000- NE-42 IA-13. Last but not least, the Big 10 is probably the weakest BCS conferences in the 21st century which is a LARGE reason for the Hawkeyes success in recent years.
I find it funny that a Iowa fan is calling Nebraska ”lucky” considering the Hawkeyes have had one of the luckiest seasons in the history of collegiate football. How many last minute victories over 100+ ranked teams? Iowa could VERY, VERY easily be 3-6, 4-5 this year. That’s how lucky they have been. We are talking weak competition too. Now, I’m not going to say that the Huskers are the team to beat this year or in recent years either.
Overall, this is not even close. Travel around the U.S. a little bit, you will see Husker bars all over. This is HUSKER Nation. Unfortunately, that is something that a Iowa Hawkeye fan will never experience, well, at least not in the 21st century.
Nice post Husker Nation! However we all know that the Huskers’ football history is no comparison to the Hawkeyes’. But the question being raised in the article is based on recent history (since 2000) and which team has positioned itself to have the best chance to play in a title game within the next three years.
I mean do you really think this year’s Nebraksa team could beat Iowa’s?
The most intriguing question of them all is can the Huskers ever again become a championship program. Well, at least in the next decade.
After re-reading your article, I see that your question is in regards to recent history. However, working in the advertising industry, I should warn you about the misleading headline. I would have included in your title: best football program in recent years, 21st century, etc. I know you clarified this in the body of your article, but us humans are more susceptible to scanning and we pay FAR more atttention to headlines than the entire body of work. The headline becomes even MORE significant by the fact that you have a voting poll on the same page.
Yes, I definitely believe Nebraska could, and likely would beat Iowa this year. This statement is a lot easier to make afte the past couple weeks, however, I would have had the same answer after the (fluke) Iowa St. loss. When you have a dominating defense, as we do, you can stay in, and win, any game. Honestly, there are only a handful of teams that I would say we probably don’t have a chance against.
Yes, I think we are positioning ourselves to make a run at the Big 12 championship (next 2 years), and potentially a national championship (next 5-6 yrs.) as well. Better than Iowa? It’s hard to say since they play in an inferior conference with no title game. They have a much eaier path to say the least. However, I believe we are taking the right steps as far as coaching, recuiting, play calling, talent, etc. So, in short I would say we are ahead of Iowa in those terms, but it’s too close to call on who will get their first.
Thanks for a great post. The reason for the article and the poll was because, as you mentioned, both the Huskers and the Hawkeye programs seem to be headed in the right direction. Yet there is no comparison to be made when it comes to their respective historical successes—Huskers rule! However, recent on- the-field results may lead many to think that Iowa may have caught up with the Huskers and/or the Huskers have slipped to an Iowa University type level.
In my opinion, the Huskers are more capable in the short term to get to the mountain first. They just have too much history, facilities and a hell of a defensive coordinator and D-line coach—Carl Pelini. All that should keep them in the hunt. Nonetheless, I disagree with you on one point—recruiting. More in-state kids should get offers from the Huskers. Only 2 Nebraska high school recruits per year like this current staff is averaging will hurt—has hurt—and will continue to hurt Nebraska high school kids’ ability to garner D-1A scholarships. Oops! Make that 3 Nebraska kids counting Jake Cotton, Barney Cotton’s son, who recently committed to the Huskers after admitting that he had an offer from the Huskers for quite some time.
Strange: Cotton is 6-7, 265 and listed as an athlete. Well now, here is a kid who truly came out of nowhere to get a D-1 offer from the Huskers. I mean to say that he was on nobody’s list—anywhere. Yet he is athletic enough to be recruited as an athlete and get an offer from the Huskers? Oh well, at least he is a Nebraska kid Nothing against Jake Cotton,–but really. There seems to me like some nepotism may be going on down there in Lincoln.
The sparse number of Nebraska kids being offered scholarships–that is outside of athletes with family ties or other connections to the Huskers–will also have a negative effect upon the psyche of of all those involved in Nebraska high school football.All of which will relegate Nebraska high school football to an even lower standard.
Just look right now: Have you ever seen a Nebraska high school class–so late in the recruiting cycle– with only 3 (oops 4 counting Cotton) prospects having received D-1offers? Man, that’s horrible. But it is something I saw coming with this new recruiting strategy the Huskers have employed. But of course as long as the Huskers win no one will give damn until they look around one day and see what a shambles it has created in their high school football program. I don’t understand it—a state so driven and known for it’s college football team does so little to help its own high school kids. Something needs to be done to stop this slide.
Part of the problem is the fact that Nebraska high school football is failing to keep pace with high school programs in other states. I could go on but I’ll save it for a future article.
Nebraskans wake the hell up! You follow the huskers like a cult! Even your own professor was on the news comparing it’s fan base as followers of a religious cult.
University athletic programs are simply a big Business. Like any business who’s mission is to increase sales and make a profit! You fools! Millions of dollars are spent by you on husker merchandise, tickets, concessions, travel, etc. But its ok w/you that we recruit out of state talent and only give 2-3 scholarships to our own youth. Why? I’m told we don’t have the elite athletes here, the talent pool isn’t big enough, etc. Those are just excuses! Recall the quote; “Don’t bring me problems, bring me solutions!”
Who am I kidding? When parity reached the Big IX, Dr. Tom had to go get Tommy Frazier, Rozier,Fryer for speed. Then Dr Tom developed the “Walk on” program and things for kids born in this state regards to being recruited haven’t been the same since! Dr Tom cooked up the “Two for one”, special. Let’s recruit the players Texas, Florida, California, pass up. Next we offer our kids to walk on. It’s become a two for one deal for big time NE and OK w/you!
You’ve been hoodwinked. Like your own professor say’s, “You’re in the CULT!”
If NE is the only program in this state, supported HUGE financially by it’s fan base then why don’t it’s base think of ways to develop it’s own youth to be talented enough to gain an offer here? Stop making excusses! Name the number of club sport teams in this state. Hockey, volleyball, baseball, and track. So trump HS track for HS Spring football. Play 13 games plus playoffs like they do in the South and West, not 9 and playoffs here. But again why do or would followers of cults do any differently? As long as it remains this way,and you yourself don’t stop and think but only accept the status quo, your dollars will continue to be taken and our youth wasted!
I’d advise parents of small boys of this state to stay away from football. Because the truth is they have a slim to zero chance of gaining a scholarship here!
Yes, lets call it like we see it, “a spade a spade”! Nepotism is exactly what giving a scholarship to Jake Cotton is. He wasn’t on any board after his junior year or ranked by rivals. I’ve not missed one big red wrap of show and Sean Callahan is usually spot on about in state recruits. He NEVER mentioned Jake Cotton before. Or was he too in the inner circle of deception of the cover up? Or left in the dark of a cold hard truth?
But like you, I read the paper like others and Jake states, he was offered in the weight room at UNL by Bo Pelini himself six weeks into his high school season. Jake decided not to tell his team until after his season was over as to not cause a distraction. I guess working out in the weight w/his brother and other college athletes is ok since your father coaches there and you are not an official recruit? Cult following fans turn there backs on potential NCAA violations and never questioned it. If offered but not disclosed was Jake still working out at the UNL facilty afterwards? Even w/his father there as a coach wouldn’t that be a NCAA violation if Jake was an “OFFICIAL RECRUIT”? Makes you wonder but I’m sure Dr. Tom has his bases covered.
Getting back to the issue of nepotism. The last two years it seems to be a trend. Last year Pensick this year Cotton and when Bo brought back Cotton, his older son took a scholarship. I’m happy for both of them and their family’s but I again ask the loyal fan base to WAKE UP! Were these the best of the ’09 and ’10 classes with our state or the only ones?
It’s more the obivous, at big red is about, who your related to providing the difference, sealing the deal! Who ever runs this site should do a history of all ex player’s who’s son’s or brothers have followed in the other footsteps and became a Husker. You’d be amazed at what you’d find. You become and Ex Husker maybe play a little ball in the NFL, have a son who ends up playing for NE on a scholarship. The Rudd boy’s come to mine. Stein???? both brothers maybe his dad played before them. No doubt is it’s Nepotism.. which again reflects negative on our kids who have to see they do not play on a level playing field in hopes of getting an offer within their own home state.
History shows the great Roman empire imploded from within. We shall see if NE does the same by not taking care of its own in state athletes, first and foremost for years to come. Not by nepotism but by doing the right things! I repeat…..”Don’t bring me excusses or problems, bring me solutions!?
I cannot get off my band wagon. There are 28 Class A and 32 Class B High Schools football programs in this your state in addition to Class C/D. These are YOUR kids, your athletes. These kids grow up playing Midget/Pop Warner Football in YOUR state. Parents/Guardians past and present pay fees, attend practices and games each week thoughout in the summers. There friend and extended families come to young boys games to show their support. These kids put on uniforms an play as IF the are a Husker! Most parents, dream of their kid playing for the Husker one day after High School. I doubt if our kids dream of being asked to walk on after giving it their all from age 11 to 17 The idea of gaining an “Offer” is a dream fullfill not by the parent but by the kid who’s strapped on their equipment, went to practice consistantly and played each game. Or the High School Student Athlete who’s committed himself to weight training and conditions, who’s worn the equipment to play the game w/diginity. Gaining a scholarship offer is an honor well deserved especially if they played the game at a level higher than their competitors. Your recognitized as being an elite athlete well qualified to compete at the highest levels of competion.
Below are facts of programs w/in our state:
The Lincoln Midget Football League has been serving the Lincoln area for 60 years.
The Millard Athletic Association football program was founded in 1999 with over 200 boys participating the first year. In 2009, nearly 1,200 boys participated in the tackle and flag football programs.
The MAA tackle teams are a member of the Nebraska Midget Football League (NMFL) where they compete against teams from other area communities including Lincoln, Papillion, LaVista, Ralston, Benson and other organizations including Nebraska Warriors, and Omaha Storm. In 2009, MAA had 20 teams participate in the NMFL, which was the largest group.
I hope rather than find excuses as to why we don’t offer more in state kids, one would rethink what a poster expressed priviously.
His quote:
“The sparse number of Nebraska kids being offered scholarships–that is outside of athletes with family ties or other connections to the Huskers–will also have a negative effect upon the psyche of all those involved in Nebraska high school football. All of which will relegate Nebraska high school football to an even lower standard.”
There needs to be a serious dialogue to solve this problem. Don’t just be “Husker Nation” and blinded by the status quo. Become aware that nearly 100% of our youth who participant in the above programs grow up never having played for a program they loved as kids. Yes there most definity is collateral damage to these youth. The choices NE makes whether it be nepotism or not will always have an “unintend consequence” on minds of our youth. As long as you support NE this way and w/your dollars nothing will never change. Doing you really NOT care? Don’t make excuses, voice solutions, not historical facts but deal w/current trends!
hmmm….. me no question Nebraska football, coaches and/or staff. me good husker fan. ha haha haa hah ha
I don’t know much about the Cotton kid, but it does sound a little suspect. However, how many GREAT husker players have come through who had family play here??? If they are good enough to play D1 on our team, I could care less if they got their scholarship because of family ties. Why would I or any other husker fan?
You can sit here and say it’s some big conspiracy and corruption going on, but maybe our high school programs and players have just been slacking in recent years. You don’t just put a guy on the team to put a Nebraskan on the team. I agree, it does a lot for the high schools and kids growing up here, seeing a fellow nebraska kid on the huskers team. But the RIGHT thing to do is to recruit the best players, regardless of where they are from. Bottom line folks.
Yes, Husker football is a business, you’d be naive to think differently. Furthermore, it is one of, if not the largest businesses and benefactors to our state.
You raise some good points in regards to recruiting and it’s effect on Nebraska High School football. However, I have not followed our recruiting close enough to talk specifics on our “strategy”. I will say that I believe it is right and smart to recruit the best talent out there. I will never be a fan or supporter of recruiting Nebraska kids simply because they live here. I’m not saying that is what your stance, but I’m not sure what your arguement is in regards to recruiting in state. We don’t send recuiters to in-state high schools? We down grade kids just because they are from Nebraska? We are simply overlooking them? Just wanting to clarify. Maybe the talen has just been down in recent years? Is that possible?
lol the big 8 was one of the toughest conferences in the nation back then. Oklahoma was always ranked in the top 20, Iowa state made plenty of appearances in the top 25, Kansas and Kansas St. were pretty good back then too. Hell even Colorado made top 10 appearances many times in the big 8. And Nebraska? They were ranked in every poll from 1970-2000. Iowa’s good this year, but they’re not consistent. NU will rise again
Nebraska is wayyy better than Iowa in history no doubt!!!! And doesn’t WINS matetr more than anything??? ANd Nebraska has more and Iowa plays in the HORRIBLE Big Ten Conference!!!!!!! Iowa is so overrated its not even funny! And all your wins are last second wins soIowa Sucks!! They almost lost to fricken Arkansas State who Nebraska beat 38-9!!!!!!
I see that you get what I’ve been attempting to get across. Great post! It seems like you are close to some things—a lot of info there. Nebraska high school football is definitely in a lull and falling to keep pace. like some of your suggestions especially y spring football. You would think the state of Nebraska that identifies has such a love affair with football would be in the forefront with their HS football. Sadly it’s just the opposite.
The Jake Cotton offer is indeed a puzzler. No. Actually it is a slap in the face to Nebraska high school kids: A player–the son of a current Nebraska Cornhusker coach-who is not on any list or seriously being recruited by any D-1 school gets an offer from the Huskers.
Now at 6-7 and 265 he may turn out to be legit. I have not seen him play. Have you?. If so, what do you think of him or what have you heard from people.
No. I personally have not seen him but there are many “suspect”, comments from those on Huskerpreplands message board.
Note a few:
Cons
“- He didn’t really dominate like I would expect a D-1 calibre prospect to
All in all, the offer is a little perplexing”
“I’m not trying to single this kid out here, but I don’t understand this offer. I watched him play several times this year and was not really impressed. He may stand out on a high school field because of his size, but he is not big enough to play on the line at the D1 level. I think Dad being a coach had a lot to do with this offer being made.”
“It was stated today (11/14/09) in the OWH article on him that his only other offers were from DII schools. In that respect, this is a projection scholarship.”
One HS coach told me only ONE school was interested……..Div II UNO!
Numbers don’t lie. Take a look at the Nebraska Schools Athletic Associations site;
Average at best! This was pure and simple…. nepotism! NE should be ashamed of itself and the fan base should not be so accepting! The Cotton’s are not from NE!
I saw southeast and Jake Cotton play several times this year and was thoroughly unimpressed by his play. He was at his peak still only the second best defensive lineman on his own team. Jacob Ledgerwood outplayed him every time I saw them play. As a high school player it really does cause one to lose faith when it seems like no matter how well you or a teammate plays the prestigious Nebraska offers will go to kids who have inside tracks like their parents.
Ok, so Iowa was 8-0. What has happened since then? I would compare them to a Missouri team from a couple years back that had a very good season, but is back in the pits just two years later.Iowa football does not compare to Nebraska football in any way shape or form. Enough Said!
Plus, u guys may have beat arkansas state more than we did, but u lost to Iowa state, after we beat them 35-3. The huskers will never again be a bcs championship team, Iowa will be within the next 5 years
Personally, I don’t like to play the “we beat so and so by this, and you beat them by that” game. It seems to be a never ending one that really doesn’t equate to much in the end. But, let’s be honest, Nebraska’s loss to Iowa St. was probably one of the biggest fluke wins in the 21st century of college football. Did you even watch that game? We had 8 turnovers, with four of them being inside the Iowa St. 5 yd. line!
ihawk: Hawkeyes!!! Cornsuckers are lucky they play in the big 12 north or else they wouldn’t be over .500 and IOWA wins their big games unlike the Cornsuckers
Ya u aren’t supposed to turn it over inside your 5 yard line 20 times, cause then u suck. It’s Iowa state!!! WOW NU sucks
Ya really u think it is a fluke win just because Nebraska turned it over inside their 5 a bunch of times. That actually means u suck case u can’t win football games if u do that
Ya I agree with iahawks, husker nation doesn’t know wat he’s talkin about. That means ur a horrible team if u can’t protect the football inside your own 5 yard line. Maybe u should learn the game before u make assumptions like it was a “fluke” win. Iowa st owned Nebraska. That simple
Dear Iahawks & GoIowa (which is probably the same person given the string of 6 comments in 15 minutes),
First of all, I’m pretty sure I am responding to a 12 yr. old, but that’s alright. I will school you regardless.
Turnovers are important to winning games, and you should protect the ball. However, your only kidding yourself if you don’t believe that game was a fluke. Turnovers are key to winning games, and a good team should protect the ball. However, if you saw the game, which you obviously didn’t, you would know we were the much better team. If we could have hung on to just one of those turnover we win. Iowa St. owned us? No. You are a horrible team if you can’t protect the ball inside the 5 yd line? Yes, if it happens all season long, but not for one game. It was a fluke win. Maybe you should look at the stats on the game, or ask someone who actually watched the game before you make “assumptions” about it.
By the way husker nation, no one cares wat u personally think. The who beat who game is the best way to figure out who is better than who. In this case Iowa beat isu by 32 points, and Nebraska lost to them by 2. Do the math
Obviously you care what I think given all your posts back-to-back-toback…..
This post pretty much sums up your lack of college football knowledge. The who beat who game is comparison to another team does NOT work. This method has be proven to not work each week of college football. Which you would know if you knew ANYTHING about college football. Sure, it can give you some idea, but it’s is not a reliable or solid indicator of deciding which team is better than another.
I would ask you to do the math for me, but I have a feeling you can’t afford a calculator, and am pretty sure your not going to be able to do it in your head.
Ur post actually doesn’t work, cause u lost to Iowa st. U said we beat so and so by this, and u beat them by that, but u guys never won to isu, so it actually is a good measurement. Do u even know wat ur talkin about when u post somethin???
My post actually does work if you could comprehend it. All i said is that method doesn’t work.
For instance, Iowa barely beat Arkansas St. (who is much worse that Iowa St by the way) 24-21.
Nebraska beat Arkansas St. 38-9. Here I will do the math for you, I don’t wqant your head to explode. We beat them by 29, you only beat them by 3. Do you still stand by that method?
Please do us all a favor, and don’t make another post unless you have something intellegent to say.
Gooooooooooooooo Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! GO BIG RED!
Are U kidding? The Huskers r a joke on O and without Suh their D will be average at best. The Hawks on the other hand r on the way to a BCS game and have a better head coach. Next year they will be in a similar position. Nebraska will be lucky to win 7 games next season.
I have just now found this site. I find this argument comical at best. First of all no one can intelegently argue about the history or tradition. Nebraska wins hands down. Second neither team was all that good this decade. Yes it was Iowa’s best decade ever, and one of Nebraskas worst. The funny thing is that Iowa’s best and Nebraska’s worst are in such close compition. Also if memory serves me right Nebraska did play for a national championship this decade, Iowa didn’t. That has to count for somthing. There are also people on here talking about coaching. Kirk Ferentz was 4-19 after 2 years with no bowl games. Bo Pelini is 20-8 with 3 bowl wins (1 as iterm head coach). It took Ferentz 4 years to get 20 wins. After 4 years he was 22-29, and 1-1 in bowls. The coaching arument is stupid also. Nebraska wins that also.
The article specifically compared the performances of the Iowa and Nebraska football programs since year 2000. No doubt–Iowa can’t even contemplate holding a Husker jock strap when it comes to comparing the history of the two programs. But the facts over the last 10 seasons—regardless of whether or not the Husker program was “down” or the Iowa program “up”–favors Iowa as being the better of the two programs when it comes to results on the field. At least the sports writers and college coaches seem to think so: Average final AP Poll ranking since 2000 (not counting last season): Iowa (11) Nebraska (14.75 ). Iowa was 11-2 this past season and played in a BCS bowl game; Nebraska did not play in a BCS bowl game and finished 10-4. Final 2009 AP Poll rank: Iowa No. 7; Nebraska No.14.
We can argue endlessly about which team had the tougher schedule or played in the better conference etc…, but the facts: wins & losses, conference championships, and last but not least–final poll rankings give Iowa the edge over Nebraska right now.
As for who is the better coach Ferentz or Pelini? Both are excellent coaches with different styles, but Pelini has not been around long enough for me to express an opinion on who is better between the two. Time will tell!
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I think it is hilarious that Iowa fans would even entertain the thought of being comparable to Nebraska. As far as prominence goes, it isn’t even a question worth asking. How many National Championships does Iowa have? And as expected, Iowa floundered in it’s bowl game. Nebraska crushed it’s Pac 10 opponent savagely. They sure talk a lot of shit considering the past. The good thing is, we will soon see who the big dog is. Careful what you wish for.
I understand as an Iowa fan that Nebraksa by all means has had a better tradition and overall football history… That being said since 2001 Iowa has had the better team.. Nebraska shouldn’t have been in the title against Miami they didn’t win there conference!!! Iowa has won 2 big ten titles, Nebraska 000000 big 12 titles(Winning the BIG 12 north doesn’t count). Iowa 6 January bowl games, Nebraska 2!! We crushed that team Arizona team as well Skull Vodka.. We played a better team in Georgia Tech in the Orange bowl and completly dominated.. The 24-14 score was misleading.. GT had 1 drive inside the 30!! Too say a team that won a BCS bowl game floundered is completly ridiculous and I feel sorry for all of the other Nebraska fans, who know what they’re talking about, and have too read your idiotic comment!
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Historically, the University of Nebraska, with its five national championships, has certainly been the 
best college football program in the neighborhood that encompasses its boarding states of: South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, and Iowa. However, if one comes from the school of “what have you done for me lately”and he or she strictly examines the performances of the Iowa Hawkeyes and the Nebraska Cornhuskers football programs, since the start of the 21st century (nine seasons), the answer may not be so certain:
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Hawks are way ahead of Huskers in talent–they will get to the promise land sooner!!!
Hawkeyes!!! Cornsuckers are lucky they play in the big 12 north or else they wouldn’t be over .500 and IOWA wins their big games unlike the Cornsuckers
First of all, it’s odd to title an article “Who Has the Best Football Program in the Neighborhood?” then to immediately follow it with some disclaimer in the opening about just looking at the last 9 seasons. So which is it? Best team in 21st century or Best Football Program in the area? It’s not even debatable to compare Iowa’s football program to the Nebraska Cornhuskers. That’s like comparing apples (NE) to raisins (Iowa).
The last two times these programs met: 1999- NE-42 IA-7 (In Iowa) 2000- NE-42 IA-13. Last but not least, the Big 10 is probably the weakest BCS conferences in the 21st century which is a LARGE reason for the Hawkeyes success in recent years.
Let’s take a look at a few numbers: National titles: NE-5 IA-1, Conference titles: NE-46 IA-11, Heisman winners: NE-3 IA-1, Bowl Appearances: NE-50 IA-23. I could go on with these kind of number all day, but those are the big ones. Oh yeah, and Iowa’s lifetime record is barely over .500. Nebraska was over 70% last I checked. Iowa fans probably feel pretty good about their team this century. Husker fans are more disappointed than ever with the performance. However, the Huskers STILL have a better record than Iowa in the 21st century…imagine that. That should tell you a little bit about the expectations at a BIG BOY program.
I find it funny that a Iowa fan is calling Nebraska ”lucky” considering the Hawkeyes have had one of the luckiest seasons in the history of collegiate football. How many last minute victories over 100+ ranked teams? Iowa could VERY, VERY easily be 3-6, 4-5 this year. That’s how lucky they have been. We are talking weak competition too. Now, I’m not going to say that the Huskers are the team to beat this year or in recent years either.
Overall, this is not even close. Travel around the U.S. a little bit, you will see Husker bars all over. This is HUSKER Nation. Unfortunately, that is something that a Iowa Hawkeye fan will never experience, well, at least not in the 21st century.
Nice post Husker Nation! However we all know that the Huskers’ football history is no comparison to the Hawkeyes’. But the question being raised in the article is based on recent history (since 2000) and which team has positioned itself to have the best chance to play in a title game within the next three years.
I mean do you really think this year’s Nebraksa team could beat Iowa’s?
The most intriguing question of them all is can the Huskers ever again become a championship program. Well, at least in the next decade.
Admin-
After re-reading your article, I see that your question is in regards to recent history. However, working in the advertising industry, I should warn you about the misleading headline. I would have included in your title: best football program in recent years, 21st century, etc. I know you clarified this in the body of your article, but us humans are more susceptible to scanning and we pay FAR more atttention to headlines than the entire body of work. The headline becomes even MORE significant by the fact that you have a voting poll on the same page.
Yes, I definitely believe Nebraska could, and likely would beat Iowa this year. This statement is a lot easier to make afte the past couple weeks, however, I would have had the same answer after the (fluke) Iowa St. loss. When you have a dominating defense, as we do, you can stay in, and win, any game. Honestly, there are only a handful of teams that I would say we probably don’t have a chance against.
Yes, I think we are positioning ourselves to make a run at the Big 12 championship (next 2 years), and potentially a national championship (next 5-6 yrs.) as well. Better than Iowa? It’s hard to say since they play in an inferior conference with no title game. They have a much eaier path to say the least. However, I believe we are taking the right steps as far as coaching, recuiting, play calling, talent, etc. So, in short I would say we are ahead of Iowa in those terms, but it’s too close to call on who will get their first.
Husker Nation
Thanks for a great post. The reason for the article and the poll was because, as you mentioned, both the Huskers and the Hawkeye programs seem to be headed in the right direction. Yet there is no comparison to be made when it comes to their respective historical successes—Huskers rule! However, recent on- the-field results may lead many to think that Iowa may have caught up with the Huskers and/or the Huskers have slipped to an Iowa University type level.
In my opinion, the Huskers are more capable in the short term to get to the mountain first. They just have too much history, facilities and a hell of a defensive coordinator and D-line coach—Carl Pelini. All that should keep them in the hunt. Nonetheless, I disagree with you on one point—recruiting. More in-state kids should get offers from the Huskers. Only 2 Nebraska high school recruits per year like this current staff is averaging will hurt—has hurt—and will continue to hurt Nebraska high school kids’ ability to garner D-1A scholarships. Oops! Make that 3 Nebraska kids counting Jake Cotton, Barney Cotton’s son, who recently committed to the Huskers after admitting that he had an offer from the Huskers for quite some time.
Strange: Cotton is 6-7, 265 and listed as an athlete. Well now, here is a kid who truly came out of nowhere to get a D-1 offer from the Huskers. I mean to say that he was on nobody’s list—anywhere. Yet he is athletic enough to be recruited as an athlete and get an offer from the Huskers? Oh well, at least he is a Nebraska kid Nothing against Jake Cotton,–but really. There seems to me like some nepotism may be going on down there in Lincoln.
The sparse number of Nebraska kids being offered scholarships–that is outside of athletes with family ties or other connections to the Huskers–will also have a negative effect upon the psyche of of all those involved in Nebraska high school football.All of which will relegate Nebraska high school football to an even lower standard.
Just look right now: Have you ever seen a Nebraska high school class–so late in the recruiting cycle– with only 3 (oops 4 counting Cotton) prospects having received D-1offers? Man, that’s horrible. But it is something I saw coming with this new recruiting strategy the Huskers have employed. But of course as long as the Huskers win no one will give damn until they look around one day and see what a shambles it has created in their high school football program. I don’t understand it—a state so driven and known for it’s college football team does so little to help its own high school kids. Something needs to be done to stop this slide.
Part of the problem is the fact that Nebraska high school football is failing to keep pace with high school programs in other states. I could go on but I’ll save it for a future article.
Peace.
Nebraskans wake the hell up! You follow the huskers like a cult! Even your own professor was on the news comparing it’s fan base as followers of a religious cult.
University athletic programs are simply a big Business. Like any business who’s mission is to increase sales and make a profit! You fools! Millions of dollars are spent by you on husker merchandise, tickets, concessions, travel, etc. But its ok w/you that we recruit out of state talent and only give 2-3 scholarships to our own youth. Why? I’m told we don’t have the elite athletes here, the talent pool isn’t big enough, etc. Those are just excuses! Recall the quote; “Don’t bring me problems, bring me solutions!”
Who am I kidding? When parity reached the Big IX, Dr. Tom had to go get Tommy Frazier, Rozier,Fryer for speed. Then Dr Tom developed the “Walk on” program and things for kids born in this state regards to being recruited haven’t been the same since! Dr Tom cooked up the “Two for one”, special. Let’s recruit the players Texas, Florida, California, pass up. Next we offer our kids to walk on. It’s become a two for one deal for big time NE and OK w/you!
You’ve been hoodwinked. Like your own professor say’s, “You’re in the CULT!”
If NE is the only program in this state, supported HUGE financially by it’s fan base then why don’t it’s base think of ways to develop it’s own youth to be talented enough to gain an offer here? Stop making excusses! Name the number of club sport teams in this state. Hockey, volleyball, baseball, and track. So trump HS track for HS Spring football. Play 13 games plus playoffs like they do in the South and West, not 9 and playoffs here. But again why do or would followers of cults do any differently? As long as it remains this way,and you yourself don’t stop and think but only accept the status quo, your dollars will continue to be taken and our youth wasted!
I’d advise parents of small boys of this state to stay away from football. Because the truth is they have a slim to zero chance of gaining a scholarship here!
Yes, lets call it like we see it, “a spade a spade”! Nepotism is exactly what giving a scholarship to Jake Cotton is. He wasn’t on any board after his junior year or ranked by rivals. I’ve not missed one big red wrap of show and Sean Callahan is usually spot on about in state recruits. He NEVER mentioned Jake Cotton before. Or was he too in the inner circle of deception of the cover up? Or left in the dark of a cold hard truth?
But like you, I read the paper like others and Jake states, he was offered in the weight room at UNL by Bo Pelini himself six weeks into his high school season. Jake decided not to tell his team until after his season was over as to not cause a distraction. I guess working out in the weight w/his brother and other college athletes is ok since your father coaches there and you are not an official recruit? Cult following fans turn there backs on potential NCAA violations and never questioned it. If offered but not disclosed was Jake still working out at the UNL facilty afterwards? Even w/his father there as a coach wouldn’t that be a NCAA violation if Jake was an “OFFICIAL RECRUIT”? Makes you wonder but I’m sure Dr. Tom has his bases covered.
Getting back to the issue of nepotism. The last two years it seems to be a trend. Last year Pensick this year Cotton and when Bo brought back Cotton, his older son took a scholarship. I’m happy for both of them and their family’s but I again ask the loyal fan base to WAKE UP! Were these the best of the ’09 and ’10 classes with our state or the only ones?
It’s more the obivous, at big red is about, who your related to providing the difference, sealing the deal! Who ever runs this site should do a history of all ex player’s who’s son’s or brothers have followed in the other footsteps and became a Husker. You’d be amazed at what you’d find. You become and Ex Husker maybe play a little ball in the NFL, have a son who ends up playing for NE on a scholarship. The Rudd boy’s come to mine. Stein???? both brothers maybe his dad played before them. No doubt is it’s Nepotism.. which again reflects negative on our kids who have to see they do not play on a level playing field in hopes of getting an offer within their own home state.
History shows the great Roman empire imploded from within. We shall see if NE does the same by not taking care of its own in state athletes, first and foremost for years to come. Not by nepotism but by doing the right things! I repeat…..”Don’t bring me excusses or problems, bring me solutions!?
I cannot get off my band wagon. There are 28 Class A and 32 Class B High Schools football programs in this your state in addition to Class C/D. These are YOUR kids, your athletes. These kids grow up playing Midget/Pop Warner Football in YOUR state. Parents/Guardians past and present pay fees, attend practices and games each week thoughout in the summers. There friend and extended families come to young boys games to show their support. These kids put on uniforms an play as IF the are a Husker! Most parents, dream of their kid playing for the Husker one day after High School. I doubt if our kids dream of being asked to walk on after giving it their all from age 11 to 17 The idea of gaining an “Offer” is a dream fullfill not by the parent but by the kid who’s strapped on their equipment, went to practice consistantly and played each game. Or the High School Student Athlete who’s committed himself to weight training and conditions, who’s worn the equipment to play the game w/diginity. Gaining a scholarship offer is an honor well deserved especially if they played the game at a level higher than their competitors. Your recognitized as being an elite athlete well qualified to compete at the highest levels of competion.
Below are facts of programs w/in our state:
The Lincoln Midget Football League has been serving the Lincoln area for 60 years.
The Millard Athletic Association football program was founded in 1999 with over 200 boys participating the first year. In 2009, nearly 1,200 boys participated in the tackle and flag football programs.
The MAA tackle teams are a member of the Nebraska Midget Football League (NMFL) where they compete against teams from other area communities including Lincoln, Papillion, LaVista, Ralston, Benson and other organizations including Nebraska Warriors, and Omaha Storm. In 2009, MAA had 20 teams participate in the NMFL, which was the largest group.
I hope rather than find excuses as to why we don’t offer more in state kids, one would rethink what a poster expressed priviously.
His quote:
“The sparse number of Nebraska kids being offered scholarships–that is outside of athletes with family ties or other connections to the Huskers–will also have a negative effect upon the psyche of all those involved in Nebraska high school football. All of which will relegate Nebraska high school football to an even lower standard.”
There needs to be a serious dialogue to solve this problem. Don’t just be “Husker Nation” and blinded by the status quo. Become aware that nearly 100% of our youth who participant in the above programs grow up never having played for a program they loved as kids. Yes there most definity is collateral damage to these youth. The choices NE makes whether it be nepotism or not will always have an “unintend consequence” on minds of our youth. As long as you support NE this way and w/your dollars nothing will never change. Doing you really NOT care? Don’t make excuses, voice solutions, not historical facts but deal w/current trends!
hmmm….. me no question Nebraska football, coaches and/or staff. me good husker fan. ha haha haa hah ha
I don’t know much about the Cotton kid, but it does sound a little suspect. However, how many GREAT husker players have come through who had family play here??? If they are good enough to play D1 on our team, I could care less if they got their scholarship because of family ties. Why would I or any other husker fan?
You can sit here and say it’s some big conspiracy and corruption going on, but maybe our high school programs and players have just been slacking in recent years. You don’t just put a guy on the team to put a Nebraskan on the team. I agree, it does a lot for the high schools and kids growing up here, seeing a fellow nebraska kid on the huskers team. But the RIGHT thing to do is to recruit the best players, regardless of where they are from. Bottom line folks.
Yes, Husker football is a business, you’d be naive to think differently. Furthermore, it is one of, if not the largest businesses and benefactors to our state.
Admin-
You raise some good points in regards to recruiting and it’s effect on Nebraska High School football. However, I have not followed our recruiting close enough to talk specifics on our “strategy”. I will say that I believe it is right and smart to recruit the best talent out there. I will never be a fan or supporter of recruiting Nebraska kids simply because they live here. I’m not saying that is what your stance, but I’m not sure what your arguement is in regards to recruiting in state. We don’t send recuiters to in-state high schools? We down grade kids just because they are from Nebraska? We are simply overlooking them? Just wanting to clarify. Maybe the talen has just been down in recent years? Is that possible?
The Huskers built up their record in a very weak Big 8 Conference from 1968-1995. The non-conference during this same time is also suspect.
lol the big 8 was one of the toughest conferences in the nation back then. Oklahoma was always ranked in the top 20, Iowa state made plenty of appearances in the top 25, Kansas and Kansas St. were pretty good back then too. Hell even Colorado made top 10 appearances many times in the big 8. And Nebraska? They were ranked in every poll from 1970-2000. Iowa’s good this year, but they’re not consistent. NU will rise again
Nebraska is wayyy better than Iowa in history no doubt!!!! And doesn’t WINS matetr more than anything??? ANd Nebraska has more and Iowa plays in the HORRIBLE Big Ten Conference!!!!!!! Iowa is so overrated its not even funny! And all your wins are last second wins soIowa Sucks!! They almost lost to fricken Arkansas State who Nebraska beat 38-9!!!!!!
sickhuskers:
I see that you get what I’ve been attempting to get across. Great post! It seems like you are close to some things—a lot of info there. Nebraska high school football is definitely in a lull and falling to keep pace. like some of your suggestions especially y spring football. You would think the state of Nebraska that identifies has such a love affair with football would be in the forefront with their HS football. Sadly it’s just the opposite.
The Jake Cotton offer is indeed a puzzler. No. Actually it is a slap in the face to Nebraska high school kids: A player–the son of a current Nebraska Cornhusker coach-who is not on any list or seriously being recruited by any D-1 school gets an offer from the Huskers.
Now at 6-7 and 265 he may turn out to be legit. I have not seen him play. Have you?. If so, what do you think of him or what have you heard from people.
No. I personally have not seen him but there are many “suspect”, comments from those on Huskerpreplands message board.
Note a few:
Cons
“- He didn’t really dominate like I would expect a D-1 calibre prospect to
All in all, the offer is a little perplexing”
“I’m not trying to single this kid out here, but I don’t understand this offer. I watched him play several times this year and was not really impressed. He may stand out on a high school field because of his size, but he is not big enough to play on the line at the D1 level. I think Dad being a coach had a lot to do with this offer being made.”
“It was stated today (11/14/09) in the OWH article on him that his only other offers were from DII schools. In that respect, this is a projection scholarship.”
One HS coach told me only ONE school was interested……..Div II UNO!
Numbers don’t lie. Take a look at the Nebraska Schools Athletic Associations site;
http://www.nsaahome.org/nsaaforms/fb/view_fb_stats.php
Average at best! This was pure and simple…. nepotism! NE should be ashamed of itself and the fan base should not be so accepting! The Cotton’s are not from NE!
After much thought, I add this link for you skeptic’s. Or might I say, “Cult” followers.
http://huskerlandpreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=634&tid=127953925&mid=127953925&sid=1010&style=2
I saw southeast and Jake Cotton play several times this year and was thoroughly unimpressed by his play. He was at his peak still only the second best defensive lineman on his own team. Jacob Ledgerwood outplayed him every time I saw them play. As a high school player it really does cause one to lose faith when it seems like no matter how well you or a teammate plays the prestigious Nebraska offers will go to kids who have inside tracks like their parents.
Ok, so Iowa was 8-0. What has happened since then? I would compare them to a Missouri team from a couple years back that had a very good season, but is back in the pits just two years later.Iowa football does not compare to Nebraska football in any way shape or form. Enough Said!
I was just kidding guys Iowa football is so much better than husker football. I was just seeing what u guys would say. GO HAWKS
ha ha… I love that an Iowa fan was so impressed by my post that he stole my name. I feel special. =)
Plus, u guys may have beat arkansas state more than we did, but u lost to Iowa state, after we beat them 35-3. The huskers will never again be a bcs championship team, Iowa will be within the next 5 years
Personally, I don’t like to play the “we beat so and so by this, and you beat them by that” game. It seems to be a never ending one that really doesn’t equate to much in the end. But, let’s be honest, Nebraska’s loss to Iowa St. was probably one of the biggest fluke wins in the 21st century of college football. Did you even watch that game? We had 8 turnovers, with four of them being inside the Iowa St. 5 yd. line!
Ya u aren’t supposed to turn it over inside your 5 yard line 20 times, cause then u suck. It’s Iowa state!!! WOW NU sucks
Ya really u think it is a fluke win just because Nebraska turned it over inside their 5 a bunch of times. That actually means u suck case u can’t win football games if u do that
Also go longhorns this weekend. Murder Nebraska.
Ya I agree with iahawks, husker nation doesn’t know wat he’s talkin about. That means ur a horrible team if u can’t protect the football inside your own 5 yard line. Maybe u should learn the game before u make assumptions like it was a “fluke” win. Iowa st owned Nebraska. That simple
Dear Iahawks & GoIowa (which is probably the same person given the string of 6 comments in 15 minutes),
First of all, I’m pretty sure I am responding to a 12 yr. old, but that’s alright. I will school you regardless.
Turnovers are important to winning games, and you should protect the ball. However, your only kidding yourself if you don’t believe that game was a fluke. Turnovers are key to winning games, and a good team should protect the ball. However, if you saw the game, which you obviously didn’t, you would know we were the much better team. If we could have hung on to just one of those turnover we win. Iowa St. owned us? No. You are a horrible team if you can’t protect the ball inside the 5 yd line? Yes, if it happens all season long, but not for one game. It was a fluke win. Maybe you should look at the stats on the game, or ask someone who actually watched the game before you make “assumptions” about it.
By the way husker nation, no one cares wat u personally think. The who beat who game is the best way to figure out who is better than who. In this case Iowa beat isu by 32 points, and Nebraska lost to them by 2. Do the math
Obviously you care what I think given all your posts back-to-back-toback…..
This post pretty much sums up your lack of college football knowledge. The who beat who game is comparison to another team does NOT work. This method has be proven to not work each week of college football. Which you would know if you knew ANYTHING about college football. Sure, it can give you some idea, but it’s is not a reliable or solid indicator of deciding which team is better than another.
I would ask you to do the math for me, but I have a feeling you can’t afford a calculator, and am pretty sure your not going to be able to do it in your head.
Lol husker nation, way to steal that husker fans name!
Oh hey look at me, me so clever, me from Iowa.
Ur post actually doesn’t work, cause u lost to Iowa st. U said we beat so and so by this, and u beat them by that, but u guys never won to isu, so it actually is a good measurement. Do u even know wat ur talkin about when u post somethin???
My post actually does work if you could comprehend it. All i said is that method doesn’t work.
For instance, Iowa barely beat Arkansas St. (who is much worse that Iowa St by the way) 24-21.
Nebraska beat Arkansas St. 38-9. Here I will do the math for you, I don’t wqant your head to explode. We beat them by 29, you only beat them by 3. Do you still stand by that method?
Please do us all a favor, and don’t make another post unless you have something intellegent to say.
Gooooooooooooooo Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! GO BIG RED!
Are U kidding? The Huskers r a joke on O and without Suh their D will be average at best. The Hawks on the other hand r on the way to a BCS game and have a better head coach. Next year they will be in a similar position. Nebraska will be lucky to win 7 games next season.
I have just now found this site. I find this argument comical at best. First of all no one can intelegently argue about the history or tradition. Nebraska wins hands down. Second neither team was all that good this decade. Yes it was Iowa’s best decade ever, and one of Nebraskas worst. The funny thing is that Iowa’s best and Nebraska’s worst are in such close compition. Also if memory serves me right Nebraska did play for a national championship this decade, Iowa didn’t. That has to count for somthing. There are also people on here talking about coaching. Kirk Ferentz was 4-19 after 2 years with no bowl games. Bo Pelini is 20-8 with 3 bowl wins (1 as iterm head coach). It took Ferentz 4 years to get 20 wins. After 4 years he was 22-29, and 1-1 in bowls. The coaching arument is stupid also. Nebraska wins that also.
Football fan:
The article specifically compared the performances of the Iowa and Nebraska football programs since year 2000. No doubt–Iowa can’t even contemplate holding a Husker jock strap when it comes to comparing the history of the two programs. But the facts over the last 10 seasons—regardless of whether or not the Husker program was “down” or the Iowa program “up”–favors Iowa as being the better of the two programs when it comes to results on the field. At least the sports writers and college coaches seem to think so: Average final AP Poll ranking since 2000 (not counting last season): Iowa (11) Nebraska (14.75 ). Iowa was 11-2 this past season and played in a BCS bowl game; Nebraska did not play in a BCS bowl game and finished 10-4. Final 2009 AP Poll rank: Iowa No. 7; Nebraska No.14.
We can argue endlessly about which team had the tougher schedule or played in the better conference etc…, but the facts: wins & losses, conference championships, and last but not least–final poll rankings give Iowa the edge over Nebraska right now.
As for who is the better coach Ferentz or Pelini? Both are excellent coaches with different styles, but Pelini has not been around long enough for me to express an opinion on who is better between the two. Time will tell!
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I think it is hilarious that Iowa fans would even entertain the thought of being comparable to Nebraska. As far as prominence goes, it isn’t even a question worth asking. How many National Championships does Iowa have? And as expected, Iowa floundered in it’s bowl game. Nebraska crushed it’s Pac 10 opponent savagely. They sure talk a lot of shit considering the past. The good thing is, we will soon see who the big dog is. Careful what you wish for.
I understand as an Iowa fan that Nebraksa by all means has had a better tradition and overall football history… That being said since 2001 Iowa has had the better team.. Nebraska shouldn’t have been in the title against Miami they didn’t win there conference!!! Iowa has won 2 big ten titles, Nebraska 000000 big 12 titles(Winning the BIG 12 north doesn’t count). Iowa 6 January bowl games, Nebraska 2!! We crushed that team Arizona team as well Skull Vodka.. We played a better team in Georgia Tech in the Orange bowl and completly dominated.. The 24-14 score was misleading.. GT had 1 drive inside the 30!! Too say a team that won a BCS bowl game floundered is completly ridiculous and I feel sorry for all of the other Nebraska fans, who know what they’re talking about, and have too read your idiotic comment!